DebateScoop.org: GOP Univison Liveblog

GOP Univison Liveblog

By Ross Smith 12/09/2007 07:01:40 PM EST

Just click "Discuss" and join me in the comments . . .

Update [2007-12-9 20:35:16 by Ross Smith]: The candidates spoke in English which was translated into Spanish and that was then translated into closed caption English for the monolingaul English speaker like me. The result was humorous at time. Eventually, I just gave in and used humorous summary to communicate the gist of the gist as best I could understand it.

Read the comments below to see this "progression" as the debate went on.

Update [2007-12-9 21:19:18 by Ross Smith]: In the end there was almost no clash at all, with only Ron Paul disagreeing with anyone. Either it was the format and we'll have to wait until Wednesday's debate in Des Moines, or all of these guys thought attacking one another was backfiring.

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GOP Univison Liveblog | 21 comments (21 topical, 0 hidden)

close caption (none / 0)

took me a minute to get to CC3 (had never looked for it)

increased empathy for the deaf and those who do not speak English

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:10:33 PM EST

Why GOP losing the Hispanics? (none / 0)

Huckabee and McCain show early emppathy -- Huck says GOP losing Hispanic support because not do enough for jobs, health care.

Fred attributes losses to corruption, deficits and activist judges?

Hunter: Cuban freedom fighters, aircraft carriers!!! Yes, he named a weapons system in answer to the question.

Ron Paul got good cheer.

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:15:49 PM EST

Rudy and Mitt (none / 0)

say there is no risk losing conservative voters to the fact of being at this forum.

Of course not since all but Tancredo are there and Tancredo does not poll out of his own shadow.

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:17:44 PM EST

Huck (none / 0)

answers same Q by getting in a dig at others re their not showing at African American forums

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:19:30 PM EST

85% of web questions (none / 0)

were on immigration

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:21:56 PM EST

Rudy very vague (none / 0)

said secure first, and ID card but seemed to advocate amnesty after.

closed caption terrible

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:23:44 PM EST

Huckabee uses imagery of compassion (none / 0)

keep head up, etc., in spite of his regressive plan.

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:24:40 PM EST

Romney claims about landscaper (none / 0)

he is a friend and made a mistake -- employers have no way to tell.

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:32:01 PM EST

what about children (none / 0)

Thompson has nonsense answer -- families good but not so good as to make "chain migration" too large a chain.

MCcain -- after we secure the border we will be compassionate.

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:34:39 PM EST

Romney on kids (none / 0)

he likes them, no?

no wholesale families!! ( I thought he was pro family).

end the illegal to protect the legal

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:36:16 PM EST

Hunter built the fence (none / 0)

in case you did not know, and he still looks Hispanics in the eye and has Hispanic friends.

He did not mention the double fence, it is a double fence.

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:37:58 PM EST

Ron Paul gets cheers (none / 0)

for opposing tamper proof ID on the grounds that national ID is wrong

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:41:23 PM EST

Chavez bashing time (none / 0)

Ron Paul booed for saying we should talk to everyone even if they are hard to deal with.

He says we create resentment by meddling in their internal affairs. Boos.

Huckabee gets cheers for saying be energy independent.

Guiuliani gets cheers for bashing Ron Paul and Chavez together. Says Castro, socialism, communism, too. Lots of devil terms, lots of applause.

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:49:00 PM EST

Thompson onCastro (none / 0)

what would you do differently?

Try to make sure he does not survive 10 US presidents!

Treat Raul with the same contempt.

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:50:21 PM EST

Romney name calls and attacks Obama (none / 0)

says "eliminate the threat" of people like Chavez, Raul and Dad are totalitarians, scary, but they are cowards.

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:52:17 PM EST

McCain shows cambio bracelet (none / 0)

would order an investigation? in Cuba??

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 07:52:59 PM EST

Iraq (none / 0)

Hunter, 2/3 of Hispanics say get out.

Answer: marine, calvary, 10th division, blood, standing up, stand down, victory.

Rudy: victory is a stable ally in the war on Islamic Fundy terror.

McCain: Rumsfeld failed, I was right to say so, McCain surge is a winner.

Huck: we are winning, deaths down, spirits up,

Romney: it is about not letting Iraq be a haven for jihadists like Afghanistan was.

Fred, for how long?
A: it is a global war with multiple fronts, *(no answer on how long)

Paul: I get the most money from active military because they agree with me and are under a defacto, unconstitutional draft. Gets cheers

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 08:01:57 PM EST

Health care costs (none / 0)

McCain likes the question because it is on costs and says tax credits of 5000 per family and that encourages wellness.

Rudy -- people need incentives. Since they do not buy their insurance, they do not take care of themselves as they should!!!!!! SOCIALISM BAD.

Huck -- acknowledges 47 million uninsured, blathers about right side up, ambulance at bottom of hill versus fence at top? Ship Michael Moore to Cuba!!!!!

Romney: claims he got the job done in Mass. Claims no gov. mandate, too (as if the Spanish speakers will keep his fibs a Spanish secret).

Fred -- nonsense. claims market efficiency and total nonsense about not being able to get cancer treatment if there is government run health care. The lines and waiting lists are for elective stuff, Fred.

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 08:09:05 PM EST

kos liveblog (none / 0)

Markos speaks the language and types fast.

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 08:12:14 PM EST

Education (none / 0)

Fred: not a federal responsibility or oval office job. Use bully pulpit to tell families to stay together.

McCain: choice and competition (the cc said "elections and competition" -- interesting word ~~election~~ choice). Distorted statistics time on choice. Jeb Bush praise.

Mitt: what I did in Massachusetts -- test teachers and students mostly.

Huckabee asked about Hispanic drop out rate. Claims the kids are bored. "Weapns of Mass Instruction."

Rudy: Catholic schools are great. Vouchers.

Hunter: inspire by having ~~weapons designers~~ aerospace engineers teach

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by Ross Smith on 12/09/2007 08:21:06 PM EST

Culture (none / 0)

Huck: Reagan, pro-life

Hunter: Remember El Salvador and Reagan (but not Iran-Contra, presumably).

Fred: Hispanics are hard working heterosexuals who don't demand high wages.

McCain: we will be enriched by their music, culture, language, and love of America (an actual good answer).

Paul: Hispanics can help us restore our constitution,