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Live From Des Moines -- GOP on ABC

Update [2007-8-5 13:6:57 by Ross Smith]:It's back to the hotel then to Chicago. I'll use the drive to contemplate a big picture story. I also have lots of fun little stories, including Tommy Thompson on Iraq policy and Duncan Hunter's military obsession. For this debate I'll just say for now that the winner is DebateScoop.

Update [2007-8-5 12:4:28 by Ross Smith]: Back in the filing room now where about twenty are writing stories. There is a message from the Obama campaign in my inbox responding to this morning's debate! The Romney campaign has two messages in my e-mail, the second one already has a long list of quotes constructed to show he won.

I did get in the spin room where I got to talk in person with Huckabee, Thompson, and Hunter. I also asked a question of Lindsay Graham who is McCain's loyal soldier, and spoke with the Romney and Brownback surrogates. Rudy's people disappeared quickly. A sign holder for one of the campaigns was in my debate class just a year ago. Outside the spin room afterward, Frank Luntz was less than enthusiastic about DebateScoop and further research on how people watch debates.

Update [2007-8-5 12:4:28 by Ross Smith]: People are scurrying in all directions right after the debate. Some remain in filing room, writing their stories. Otheres off to the spin room, off for a smoke. I think I'll wander around.

It's nice and convenient to have transcripts in the inbox, but no time to use them now.

Update [2007-8-5 9:52:8 by Ross Smith]: My e-mail is receiving "fact checks" on the abortion dispute between Brownback and Romney.

Pre-debate

Ron Paul supporters and rain greeted me at Drake University this morning at 6:30. A group of forty plus Paul supporters braved wild rains, wind and thunder outside the auditorium where the debate would be held ninety minutes later.

Three lonely "Rudy" sign holders and a Fair Tax (is Gravel here, too?) bus were the only other signs of campaign life if you don't count the media trucks.

I checked out the empty spin room first, a small theater with little platforms on the stage set up for each candidate. It seems strange that the campaigns would not insist on a larger space with more room for more reporters -- credentials to the spin room are separate and harder to come by.

I asked a few reporters here what they were looking for, how they would watch the debate. The consensus is that with the Ames straw poll about on the near horizon the maneuvering of the "second tier" candidates, Brownback, Huckabee and Tommy Thompson would be their focus. Brownback in particular has been picking fights with Romney, the only front runner to be "in" the straw poll. Brownback and Huckabee have also had tiffs and Tommy Thompson has declared success (measured by shifting bars) in the straw poll necessary for his own campaign.

I will track my reactions and musings using the comments thread below. Join Tim O'Donnell and me there.

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ABC just touted the fact that the Sunday morning audience is "more sophisticated."

But for the print media there is a larger significance. I was told by several that the morning debate gives them a lot more time to think about what to write and how since they have a long time before filing deadlines for Monday papers.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:00:45 AM EST

Double teamed by Brownback and George S.

Cannot say anything in the ad that is false.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:04:44 AM EST

Mitt has to hate YouTube.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:05:22 AM EST

Changed position on Rudy since March!

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:06:49 AM EST

Embargoed in N. Va till 10:00 am EST.  Keep rolling Ross!

by Tim ODonnell on 08/05/2007 09:07:37 AM EST

and its link to national security? Need more kids in China? The Congo?

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:11:55 AM EST

Military jargon time.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:13:45 AM EST

Has there been a shortage of support for the troops?

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:20:54 AM EST

Says Tancredo who gets called on 20 minutes into te debate.

What can't we do that needs a change in rules of engagement, Tanc?

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:22:19 AM EST

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:23:01 AM EST

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:23:24 AM EST

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His reaction to Paul is awesome for showing calm, fatherly image.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:26:23 AM EST

fitting questions and who hea asks to the dynamics of the race.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:27:43 AM EST

he does not want to pick sides between Grassley and Bush.

Why not?

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:28:57 AM EST

It may not be your health care policy that is scary, Tancredo.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:29:53 AM EST

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:30:23 AM EST

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Mitt almost makes a good point -- tax breaks don't help people who don't pay taxes. (But tax credits do, Mitt).

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:32:46 AM EST

Just how do you define "socialized medicine?"

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:33:23 AM EST

Rudy says it is an option that should remain open. Contradicts his own earlier statements?

Mitt says Barack confused about friends and enemies but confuses Chavez with tyrants.

Hunter says Obama cannot talk about the military with the same amount of jargon Hunter can. He also knows the height of the mountains!

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:39:38 AM EST

They elect the radicals!

Huckabee says the job of the U.S. is not to export our form of government. America First.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:42:11 AM EST

from being mayor of New York! He made NYC safe for democracy!

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:44:19 AM EST

Naive. Reference to Obama.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:45:14 AM EST

debate leaving focus on second tier as Rudy, Mitt, McCain weigh in on foreign policy.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:46:54 AM EST

Because they think he is crazy for thinking that threats to nuc Medinah and Mecca deter terrorists!

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:48:25 AM EST

States the obvious in response to Tancredo.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:49:01 AM EST

is under attack today.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:49:23 AM EST

I have a bridge to sell people who believe that.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:53:39 AM EST

Brilliant!

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 09:54:08 AM EST

Goes after pork barrel projects on bridges issue.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 10:00:11 AM EST

McCain -- only two duties -- hilarious.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 10:01:26 AM EST

Rudy: let me talk about the qualifications of a warrior!!!!!

Claims Reagan/Bush division of duties was good.

Mitt hedges, too. Backs Bush for keeping us safe.

Both say it is up to the president -- but do not say what they would do were they president -- is that not relevant?

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 10:05:21 AM EST

No delegation, just cooperation.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 10:06:05 AM EST

Depends on credentials of the president??

I served so would not share CINC role.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 10:06:43 AM EST

Huckabee supports it because people fear audits and it reduces penalties on work and profits, ends underground economy.

Mitt says it has attractive features but we have a good, growing economy and must be careful. Says get rid of tax on savings.

Rudy opposes death tax. Says simplify and that Fair or flat is intriguing. Too complex to get there.

McCain first to mention alternative minimum tax. Let Greenspan do it!

Tancredo: I co-sponsor Fair Tax. Tells Mitt to read the book.

Brownback for optional flat tax.

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 10:12:57 AM EST

Hunter -- contemplating running as a Dem
Paul -- not speaking forcefully enough
Huckabee -- taking care of his own health
Mitt -- his earlier abortion position
Rudy -- not enough time -- will tell it to priest
McCain -- volunteering for more combat and a meeting (Abscam)
Brownback -- focus on self
T Thompson -- not supporting women in his life enough
Tancredo -- taking 30 years before being born again

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 10:16:19 AM EST

What will you restore?

Tancredo: Hope, ideas of western civilization, no PC.

T Thompson: open up East wing to Dems, etc. best minds and no PC

Brownback: rebuilding the family, overtunr Ros v. Wade

McCain: never surrender in war on terror

Rudy: same as in NYC, optimism, not defeatism, executive experience.

Mitt: strengthen military with more troops and strengthen economy and strengthen family

Huck: keep in mind that the citizens are the boss

Missed one

Hunter: stop China and elevate family

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by Ross Smith on 08/05/2007 10:23:42 AM EST